Lesley Groff told the House Oversight Committee on Tuesday that she never saw anything improper while working for Jeffrey Epstein, denying knowledge of his crimes as lawmakers continue to probe how his inner circle functioned. Groff, who worked for Epstein for nearly 20 years until his arrest in 2019, gave her transcribed interview around 10 a.m. ET.
Her testimony lands in the middle of an active investigation into Epstein’s network, one that has focused on who arranged meetings, who took calls and who helped set up massages and other appointments around him. Groff said she arranged phone calls between Epstein and Donald Trump, though Rep. Stephen Lynch said she did not say what year they happened and said they were before Trump became president.
Groff also told lawmakers she was not aware that some of the women she arranged to massage Epstein were minors. Lynch pushed back hard on that account, saying Groff’s description of her relationship with Epstein was highly inconsistent and that young women have said they told her they were under age. He said she denied being close to Epstein, even as he questioned whether she could truthfully maintain that she saw nothing improper while arranging young women for massages with a registered sex offender.
The committee’s interest in Groff is not just about one witness. Her name appears more than 160,000 times in Epstein files released by the Justice Department, and investigators have described her as one of the most present people in Epstein’s orbit. That makes her account central to a larger question: who around Epstein knew enough to understand what was happening, and who is still trying to put distance between themselves and that history.
There is also a sharp mismatch between Groff’s denials and what others say they experienced. Marina Lacerda said in September 2025 that Groff would call her so often that she ended up dropping out of high school before ninth grade, a detail that sits uneasily beside Groff’s insistence that she never saw anything improper. Groff’s attorney, Michael Bachner, said she had no criminal involvement with Epstein and that she is disgusted by his conduct and heartbroken by what his victims endured.
Groff does not face any criminal charges related to Epstein, but her testimony is part of a record lawmakers are building around a network that has remained partly obscured even after years of scrutiny. The committee is expected to keep pressing witnesses over who knew what, and Bill Gates was scheduled to testify next.
